Rifles and ammo are on the shelves now. Designed with a 1-shot capacity, the Ruger No 1 Laminate .450 Bushmaster Falling-Block Rifle is made with a stainless-steel barrel and receiver. Because a lever action rifle in .357 Magnum would be illegal. Stupid iPhone, or fat thumbs, or…). The sides taper slightly from the base to the mouth BUT they are straight with no bottleneck. Also features a scope base, a tang safety and sling swivel studs. I’ll draw up some reamer specs over the next couple of days. It cuts recoil, but it increases blast like you wouldn’t believe. Like my father would often say “Ohio does keep Kentucky from bumping into Michigan”. Please bear with me regarding possible misspelling of the lady’s last name. Its not too hard on the old ears. 18-1/4" barrel Single-shot 2 red dot safety mechanism Single-action External hammer Molded ABS plastic stock Stainless steel receiver & barrel Short pistol grip Rust-resistant finish 29" … I am also a huge 45-70 fan, so getting a 450BM in a bolt was a must have. Keep your eyes on Brenton USA, my friends. I have built 4 more for relatives and friends and if there ever was any problem with those rifles I would have heard of it. 450 Bushmaster , 15in MHR, Single Ramp, Black, Box (11) As Low As (Save Up to … Also put took out a half moon in the front of the mags so nothing catches on the rounds. Both +500 favorites this weekend, Michigan State FAILED. It keeps Michigan’s deer with CWD from infecting the Kentucky herds. If he doesn’t understand why there are so many more options of season and rifles for coyote hunters, he’s not too bright. magazine by changing the follower and tooling the front of the mag to clear the fat round. It’s performance on game is unknown at this time but it is basically a lengthened version of the 357 Maximum. Featuring quick-take-down, tools-free disassembly, it’s also a great stowaway emergency/survival gun for the camp, boat, or truck. The case is what makes it legal for these straight-walled (non-bottlenecked) zones, but it isn’t exactly straight. but we will be trying hard to catch up soon. 450 B does about the same at 50 yards, yet has energy and it is accurate and flat out beyond 200 yards- unthinkable for a cannonball out of a shotgun. To support the large case head of .450 Bushmaster ammunition, the .450 Bushmaster bolt is engineered with tapered lugs and machined from a high-strength superalloy. As for the 7.62×39, it has very heavily tapered case walls and a generous headspace tolerance and is usually fired out of rifles with overly large chambers. .450 Bushmaster… The other concern is how loud it is. At least you’ll never get called a bigot for saying that you’d rather shoot .45-70, unlike when I say that I’d rather watch the Star Wars Holiday Special than deal with Disney’s SJW agenda. I think this might work better as a 10mm, but all the bullets are too light in both weight and construction. The .450 has the potential to be a truly great cartridge, but it’s being held back by the limits of the AR platform. I want to wildcat one. I knew absolutely nothing about this Cartridge before this article so I guess I learned something. The Amish love them. But after its initial hang ups it worked flawlessly after 4 or 5 rounds As far as follow up shots, that was not a problem at all, it barely moved off of aim point which is inherent to the AR platform when done right. 1:10 twist is required to stabilize subsonic bullets in barrels under 12″. Are there ‘better’ choices? Certainly a lot quieter than my 24″ 7mm Mag Tikka. No follow up shot needed but have had zero feed issues on the Gunsite. The information about the round (except for the recoil, which is more of a shove than a hit, and the overemphasis on magazine problems), where the author sticks to the facts, is accurate. but that’s not likely to happen. You need that extra slice of pie? I only had my life threatened one of those times. I hunted with a muzzle brake on my rifle, but I wouldn’t recommend it. How about something like an elongated .475 Linebaugh with a standard 12mm rim in a DPMS G2? The 450BM is popular for far more reasons than just legal ones. I enjoy that the .450 has brought a level of sport back to some otherwise foolish and idiotic trends in hunting. Ammunition: The struggle of the .450 has also been in the ammo arena. I’ve lived here most of my 60 years and have only needed to go down into Detroit 4 or 5 times. I’ve had the chance to fire each and they are all excellent performers. the ammunition manufacturer Hornady to produce the .45 Professional cartridge for this project, but Hornady wanted to shorten the cartridge case and overall length to accommodate their 0.452 in. OUT OF STOCK (13) Ruger 8334 American Rimfire Bolt .22 LR 18" Threaded Barrel 10+ OUT OF STOCK (2) Ruger HKM77LRSG 375 RUG GUIDE Stainless Steel $ 1,068.00. The cartridge was designed, albeit poorly, to fit into an AR mag and action. A lot of what you say is true and if you can handle it IMHO, after 40 years of hunting with many weapons, the 450BM is just about the most effective caliber I’ve ever seen for deer inside of 200 yards. After one incident I got my car back from 2 weeks in the body shop and 10 days later it was right back to the shop from another hit. Seller: FandWGuns FandWGuns. In the BM they are about 1/2 the cost of the slugs and get better ballistics from the Rugers and the American RR is about 200 dollars less than the Savage bolt 20ga. Perhaps the 7.62X39 case blown out to make a 10.5 (.416) X39? 450 stainless upper in the 18″ variety. I believe that their name will soon be synonymous to AR hunting and I couldn’t be prouder that they are in Michigan. I have a 450 Bushmaster AR upper from bear Creek that functions flawlessly. I’ve seen it happen frequently. Subscribe for FREE now to ensure you never missa single vital update... ©COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. The .450 Bushmaster is a rifle cartridge developed by Tim LeGendre of LeMag Firearms, and licensed to Bushmaster Firearms International. $350 for Stainless Steel Finish: 13.125″ – 15.875″ $380 for Chrome Moly Blued Finish: $380 for Stainless Steel Finish: 16.25″ – 27″ $425 for Chrome Moly Blued Finish: $425 for Stainless Steel Finish A semi auto 45-70 that never gives a minute of trouble is unbelievable. you cannot believe how many people show up with a plastic stocked pump weighing in at 6.5 lbs , and shooting sabot’s with 385 gr at 1900 fps . Do the research and you will see a 450 works best in AR platform with a longer barrel and a mid length gas or rifle gas. It isn’t a long-range round, but it’s capable of delivering more lead inside its effective range than almost any other round in common use today. And yes I watched for any and all pressure sign and have NEVER seen pressure sign with this cartridge in fact that’s a compressed load and have shot thousands with no problems. When it comes to the .450 Bushmaster I fail to see what it brings to the table. Anything else isn’t worth discussing because Iowa will never change its laws- so I shoot the best of what’s allowed. Except for maybe “Running On Empty”, by Jackson Browne. Just use the bolt from a 7.62×39 AR. 250-grain pointed SST flex-tip bullet. It is a fun round that you KNOW you’re shooting. (not really! He’s on board to do the barrel. My game plan is to put a block in it to make it single shot auto eject gun and use it to hunt for deer in IL in the most politically incorrect way plausible. Sub MOA accuracy and 6 DRT deer convinced me but then NY outlawed AR’s. The beginner to the .450 should know that they ought to buy a factory-made .450 rifle, and a bolt-action at that. Michigan State will always play second fiddle to Michigan. It hammers deer, I’d probably prefer 357 AR rimless max if major manufactures did pressure tests and got 358 rifle bullets hitting 2600 fps ie 180 grain Barnes. B&C M40 stock dark grey w/black webbing, the grip tape can be removed if you don’t like it. Michigan = , You can use a .25 caliber rimfire in West Virginia. It’s comparable to a .45-70 and is relatively violent in terms of how much it drives into the shoulder. 1, to some very fine bolt actions, to the much-maligned AR platform in both factory and homemade variations. Michigan may have the best beaches, but Illinois leads in the category of legislative ignorance. And we’d lose the taper and rebated rim that cause so many problems. I have 3 of them and every one of them is sub MOA. Henry may be well-known for their lever actions, but they make a single shot .450 Bushmaster too. Launching a .45-caliber, 250-grain bullet at 2,200 fps is, of course, a significant performance step up compared to the 5.56 NATO’s relatively tiny 55-grain bullet exiting the barrel at 3,200 fps. “The Bushwhacker has about exactly the same taper as a .223, so I’m guessing it’s the rebated rim that’s the problem.”. Went home and found a dandy load in the Western Powders Load Book, 7th ed. Hornady FTX designed for the 460 S&W shot at just over 2600fps across my Chrony from the 16″ barrel. Other Guns: Savage, CVA, and several other makers have bolt actions, break-actions, and more available. Instead it’s just a bumbling mess of random features that we somehow have to live with. He could have made a better choice in Charlton Heston and Tom Selleck. Been done. Rounds can lift point-up and cause the action to jam. The base 336, .450 Bushmaster conversion includes the following: New stainless or chrome-moly barrel, cut to customer’s choice of length; Receiver threads are reamed and recut oversize, in-line with the bolt, and the receiver face is trued  The cartridge fits single-stacked in a standard AR-15 magazine with a single-stack follower. The answer is in the case. I found it odd that the author would pick Ted Nugent (self professed pedophile) and Tim Allen (former convicted drug dealer) as the leading representatives of Michigan. Ballistically, the .450 Bushmaster has a rather flat trajectory out to 200 yards; if the firearm is zeroed at 150 yards, the user can expect to see a rise of 1.8 inches at 100 yards, zero at 150 yards, and a drop of 4.9 inches at 200 yards. The SCOUT .450 Bushmaster comes with a 25” (heavier calibers) fluted stainless steel barrel and a DF muzzlebrake. Hell a 22lr will kill deer but use an ethical round and shot placement. Curiously, Ruger also makes a beautiful No. Youth Patriot models with variable length of pull and 20” barrels are also available. I have been to their facility and have seen with my own eyes the level of engineering and innovation that has been done to produce the finest .450 hunting rifles available. The .450 Bushmaster is descended from the "Thumper" concept popularized by gun writer Jeff Cooper. Test barrel length: 20 in (508 mm) Source(s): Hornady & Remington: The .450 Bushmaster was developed for big game hunting with modern rifles. I have been developing loads for a few years now, and can tell you that in the 77 action with the 16″ barrel, you cant overload a 250gn projectile with Lil Gun to the point of destruction. This permitted operation in the more abundant and popular AR-15 platform versus the AR-10 platform. I saw the 450 Scout and thought ‘why not’? 1) is legal in Iowa You have our attention as well. Some of the best whitetail deer hunting in the country is in S.E. Trident Armory up here in Maine is making some kick ass AR’s in .450BM. “Traditional” “sentiment” need not apply. I believe in the truth, and if the marketers don’t like it, too bad) Depends on what you are looking for. His opinions are just that: opinions. Barrel weight: 1.34 lbs. The biggest problem I see from all these problems people are having in the AR platforms is they are spending big money on top of the line brand name parts and wasting there money, it may impress there friends, but does nothing for functionality, reliability or accuracy. Here in Illinois, people hunt deer with scoped revolvers in .357 Magnum. I’ve never seen an AR barrel for sale with a .416 bore but Lilja(my favorite) or some other custom barrel maker should be able to provide one on order. This rifle has a classic hunting rifle look with the walnut stock and blued finish. Optics / Scope Mounts They just released a new AR rifle chambered for it. Power factor adds 50% for the 450 and performance on game is FAR superior. The 405 gr. The .450 BM is sort of the Star Wars: The Last Jedi of the cartridge world. Great round, took a couple of deer… No Problem. More barrel length would increase velocity. Im not enjoying the cost of components though, they are quite expensive, and limited in variety. I’m a believer. That being said and lucky for us there is a new cartridge out there for those hunters that must use straight walled cartridges, the 350 Legend. Just what you want in a battle rifle. My favorite round is now the 450 BM… Dropped a 250lb bear in it’s tracks…. To each his own but for me I have high hopes for the 450. They would be adequate for deer without beating up the gun or the shooter. Got 2 deer with it this year but the range is far more limited, (for me), than will be the 450BM. I have had very few opportunities at over 125 yard in southern mi. One wouldn’t even need to machine the bolt face. What about Bob Seger? It’s called a 350 Legend. Hit with this cartridge the deer just fold up and there is very little lost meat.  The cartridge is chambered in bolt action rifles by Ruger, Savage, and Remington, Ruger's No. All I’ve heard has been comments like flawless, cannon, DRT, under 1 moa and How much for another ? It IS legal. Flattened remingotn 7.5 primers of course are the norm at this point. Hornady has a 250gr FTX load that has been the standard for years. Tikka extra large bolt handle. (I don’t know why this didn’t post with the original. Like the magazine in particular? Your daughter or someone else? I have it in the Ruger Gunsite Stainless and am 4 deer 4 shots with it. Most hunters in the shotguns zone would be better served with a 77/44 bolt gun or a single shot 44 mag like the cva . If I hunted where a 30-06 was legal I would use it. CALIBER:.450 Bushmaster; LOWER RECEIVER: Forged RRA LAR-15M Multi-Caliber Marked; UPPER RECEIVER: Forged A4; BARREL: 16-inch Stainless Steel, Cryo Treated, 1:24 Twist Let me repeat that for you: the .450 Bushmaster owes its success to state laws, not its superior ballistics, marketing, or ease of use. either one is a good deer gun to 150 yds if you can hit well with it. To my DNR and local government readers out there, please take no offense. The answer to that is simple: vapid, ignorant bureaucrats in state and local government. It still might be doable in a small shop like mine though. Winchester and Remington also make ammo for the .450. The Carbine. OUT OF STOCK (69) Ruger Mark IV 22/45 Target .22LR 5.5" Blue 10+1. Hornady, Remington and Federal now manufacture ammunition for the rifle, and Starline manufactures empty brass for handloading. Wow, if I listened to your advice and half the comments on here I wouldn’t have gone with a .450 Bushmaster AR. Im an Australian hunter and have shot many good years with my 45-70 levergun, but two years ago I wanted to jump on the ‘Scout Rifle’ wagon but owned a lot of 308 bolt guns already. Other then a few firearms chambered for it. The beginner should know that there are forces that drive sales and popularity, but not all are valid or even logical. That’s just irresponsible. The first thing that the beginner should understand about the .450 Bushmaster is that it makes very little sense at all. If you want full pass through at 200 yards I would not use the Hornady Black, i does dump all the energy in the Deer but at the cost of none to low blood trail. I ended up having to modify almost every part in the action, including the magazines. The market is steadily growing in this department. Amen Dan. Introduced by Bushmaster and Hornady in late 2007, the .450 Bushmaster was an attempt to improve the ballistic performance of AR-15 rifles. Knowing what needs to be tweaked saves a lot of frustration. That’s a bit of a pain, but once done on a number of cases it won’t be needed again for some time. Hand fit everything together ( not slap together and go) I noticed right off the bat the AR 5.56 mag follower would not work. It still shoots factory just fine as well and also cast if you powdercoat and gas check with sages outdoors gas check (made for AR). Buy a replacement follower or a top cover for the follower in for a 5.56 AR mag. I have counted 50+ deer yarding at one time in a cornfield more than once. The polymer mags are even smoother then the included metal ones. , The .450 Bushmaster makes use of .452 in. I didn’t modify until I hot loaded it, I put a mid weight buffer in. 450 Bushmaster is the big bore good of AR , in fact I wouldn’t own one if I couldn’t fire off fifteen in a row without stopping. bullets. 2) is easily the best of those legal in Iowa for rifles, even ahead of 45-70 govt That’s a poser. It’s easy; the DNR wants as many coyotes killed as possible and only wants to control the deer herd. That should take care of the body taper. I built my own AR 450 BM from various available parts. Why does the round not work well? Plus been told by a few others DRT or 2-4 steps. It is the prerogative of government to know close to nothing about any given subject when making policy, and it isn’t your fault that you are so woefully uninformed. It has a 20 inch barrel, medium length gas, and I use a heavy buffer. Thank god for Ohio. It smells to me like it’s a cartridge designed to extract the most it can out of an AR bolt. That was a good beginner article if I ever saw one.). All I done was get a plastic mag follower off eBay placed it in a steel mag and went to the range. I have also put the 300 XTP MAG loads in front of 46.0g of Lil Gun and absolutely walloped a good water buffalo, the bullet making a lump in the other side of the still beast where it was easily recovered. That said, the Barnes 275g .451 offering is the most aerodynamic I’ve found yet. The issue with these weak loads is that they rob the .450 of what it could be. I have the Ruger American 450BM in SS with the 22″ barrel. It is, in point of fact, a terribly designed cartridge that has a huge number of flaws. So many in fact that we have had to have them culled out of season to thin the herds I delivered newspapers in the early mornings in western Washtenaw County (just outside Ann Arbor) for about 10 years, and during that time hit 7 of them with my little car. The .450 Bushmaster is one of the most unlikely cartridges to achieve success in recent years, but I like to think that it has the potential to become a favorite. The truly amazing thing is that I can coyote hunt year-round with anything smaller than a 6.5 bore day and night, 24/7, but I can’t hunt deer in more than half the state with the same rifle during gun season. Bushmaster and LeGendre approved the change from a 1.772 in. With a roughly a .100″ longer case it sits in the sweet spot with a 158gr or 180gr bullet moving at around 2300fps and recoils less than a 243. $995.00. Lacking the manufacturing to create one’s own mags, It would have to be on a STANAG mag body with mods. The 350 Legend is not a new idea or caliber really. (Like how versatile a 12ga can be. (60 mm) OAL to the now standard 1.700 in. needless to say shooting these from the bench is absolutely brutal. They aren’t building parts guns or cheap imitations. The Ruger® Elite 452® AR-Trigger is a two-stage trigger that offers a smooth, crisp, 4.5 pound trigger pull. (57.40 mm) OAL. And OFC, being in marketing, they haven’t the slightest clue as to the engineering problems they so create, since rare indeed is the marketer that can understand physics or math. I also have built them in 7.62×39 for the reason of people having problems with this round. Offered in twenty chamberings, the rifle features a sporter carbon fiber composite gunstock and a stainless steel radial muzzle brake built around a light target contour Christensen Arms carbon fiber wrapped barrel. KSA Youth Crickett Precision Rifle, Single Shot, .22LR, 16.12" Threaded Bull Barrel, 1 Round , Bushmaster requested[when?] EGW Scope base 20 MOA. This article is out of touch. 1 - Tikka 3 round magazine. Wondering why someone would want a 450 Bushmaster is like asking why you would want Thor’s hammer. True, but it’s tucked into a corner of the state and is easily avoidable. That conversion is also fraught with problems when paired with the AR’s straight mag well. Im really enjoying this gun. Muzzle brakes are available, supplied with protective barrel cap. Found someone that made big bore followers. But no one complains about overpowered. 3) works flawlessly in the AR I built- and had a blast doing it -without requiring major alterations to every part -and the same for my son and friend who built one after seeing mine -and both our Bushy magazines and our 223 magazines feed correctly same problem with the 12 ga full power sabot slugs . Just wanted to say this is my caliber to make an “ignorant” AR pistol from. In other words it will fire and fling anything shoved into it, dirty bent and dinged, mud covered, doesn’t matter. 45-70 cowboy loads are more than powerful enough and recoil in my Henry doesn’t seem any worse than .308 in my AR-10. Unlike the .223 where you might get a stuck case, the .450 is capable of being handloaded above safe levels and still have plenty of room in the case left over. I decided on this barrel … IMHO shows real promise for the recoil sensitive or youth shooters. Anyway, if you want to feedback on this my email address is: [email protected] dot com, I did not know much about the .450 BM, 1900 words later I still don’t. I have hunted deer here since 1974. the 450 BM is overkill on deer and small shooters alike. yep you win. The center of the build here is Brownell’s amazing barrel, bolt, and muzzle brake set (Brownells 450 Bushmaster 16″ Barrel for Carbine Gas System: 080-001-361WB). Standard Patriot features include drop box magazines, recessed crowns, fluted barrels, spiral fluted bolt streamlined bolt handle, Weaver scope bases, patented Lightning Bolt Action LBA® user-adjustable trigger system. Another benefit the .450 has it that it is generally pretty accurate. 1 single-shot in stainless and laminate that I have had the pleasure of testing. I’d like to see an article on 8.6 creedmoor. Bushy is far more accurate than shotgun slugs and has way more range. Wouldn’t that be something? Much better représentatives of the state. This guy would argue using a .416 Rigby to hunt a pussy cat. There’s slight taper to the body and the head is rebated. The .450 generates a tremendous amount of recoil, even in an AR. A full charge of Ramshot Enforcer behind a 200gr. I hunt woods and field and the 450BM is going to be my field gun as I have shots out to 350 yards if I can take one. (45 mm) case and 2.362 in. Make sure you only use all steel mags. .223 Wylde Chamber, 1:8 twist. The laminate stock comes with a sporting-style recoil pad. Like a sports car or model A. In Bushmaster's 2016 sales brochure, all new-production XM-15s are stated to be supplied with a 4150 steel barrel. (Pro tip: they can’t.). Have shot 8 of them now with it and all have been DRT, no tracking. Now 22mag on Turkey yes! Barrel lengths up to 24″ available, we have a 23″ barrel to be the optimal length for the 450 Bushmaster cartridge. How can other states even compete? Earlier this summer, Buffalo Bore released four loads to cover everything from deer to grizzly bear. I’ve left the brake off for good, as I dont use hearing protection in the scrub. In my opinion, no rebated case is ever going to be satisfactory in an autoloading action. Ever. Why not compare 450 Bushmaster to 12 ga slugs, because that’s the real choice for actual real world hunters? The Ruger American has become a best value for the money in my house and with friends. The sign above reads, “bureaucratic compliance equipment.”. He isn’t from Michigan, though… I’d like to see some dedicated hot bolt-action loads that have a longer OAL to prevent them from fitting in an AR mag at some point in the future. It’s about the only size left that hasn’t got the word magnum hung on it anywhere. I don’t know if it is mentioned in any of the many comments, but there is an excellent forum on the 450BM at http://www.450bushmaster.net. One thing about 10mm, it’s almost automatic to call it the 10mm Mag. Can’t use 7.62 X 39 because the removal of the taper will mean the mag can’t have much curve. I think I just found my next personal project… I’m going to contact Lilja right now. States across the country are now allowing the use of straight-walled cases in what used to be shotgun-only zones for deer. I have seen first hand how the 20ga bolt slug rifles have open up new vistas to lower MI hunters. The trajectory of most .450 factory ammo allows you to zero at about 200 yards and hold right on anywhere inside that. the same lower I still use with a .223 Wylde upper and it functions perfectly with that buffer. Many lever guns have limited accuracy past 150 yards, but the .450 BM is able to perform within MOA all the way to 200 and beyond. AND since then I have made several 450 BM uppers for various people and they have been flawless. 416R Stainless Steel, Hand Lapped. In fact, that’s a hell of a good idea. I have been shooting the Rem Max for many years in a Springfield S.A.S.S. Ruger Mark IV Hunter .22 7 Stainless Steel. Considering that most all deer hunting occurs inside 200 yards, with most in Michigan at only about 50 yards, it is certainly overkill. I wouldn’t build one of those either, as the large amount of case taper in the X39 is much more suited to a heavily curved magazine that rocks backward to lock home, like the AK or Ruger mini rifles do. Misinformed 450 hater! After blowing holes through deer with my 30-06 and 35 Whelen and tracking them all day I bought a 450BM upper for my AR. And please don’t be too hard on Ohio. Is she a looker or should she be in a moo-moo for public consumption? Do you have access to manufacturing facilities that might be of use in this project? At the end of the day, the industry as a whole hasn’t answered demand for reliable .450 AR mags. I will most likely keep it under 200. Doesn’t he get any love? Makes a awesome range toy and will kill anything big enough to die. Glad Iowa change the laws. With mid length gas and 20 inch barrel bone stock gas,and bolt it ate everything I put through it. Check it out and read what the people who really understand the cartridge and AR platform feel about it. I did a very large spread on my custom AR-15 build for another publisher and it was nothing but problems. most of the guns I have seen chambered for it art very light and short barrel . All his whining about “This cartridge is only popular because it’s legal…” is nonsense. 2 of the impacts were from the deer running into the side of my car. Great Lakes Firearms AR-15 Barrel .450 Bushmaster 18" Mid Gas 1:24 Steel Black N... Great Lakes Firearms AR-15 Barrel .450 Bushmaster ... Our Low Price $219.97 Mine is as accurate as any 45-70 I own ( two, both single shots). in 45 cal, the idea of ballistics is almost irrelevant unless you have ultra magnum amounts of case capacity to drive the higher bc (we’re talking 450g +) projectiles anyway. For the pigs I hunt in the north, this cartridge is doing great. another good choice is a 20 ga with a rifled barrel . 7mm mag is NOT legal, and it’s not going to be. 8.0″ Barrel profile is .900″ under the hand guards, .875″ at the gas block, and .850″ at the muzzle. Ill has us beat there . The problem with this is that the relatively flimsy AR action is prone to damage when introduced to the type of pressure the .450 BM can generate if loaded hot. There are more and more .450 loads coming out every week, so keep an eye out for new stuff. and later[when?] Spot on. I have to concur on your sentiments about the deer in Michigan. Can’t wait to shoot them in my 20″ AR once I’m down South on some pigs, that rifle has never missed a beat in 8 seasons of hunting. But Tom never rode a bull bison onto the stage in a loincloth. It has a 20 inch barrel, medium length gas, and I use a heavy buffer. It’s capable of handling huge bullets over 350 grains, has a .308 case head, making it just a barrel swap on most .308 rifles, and is easily able to kill all North American game with the right bullets, up to and including grizzly. Most bolt-action rifles would have no issue with hotter .450 loads, but in a semi-automatic black rifle you’re asking for trouble. I just heard back from Carson Lilja. 10.5″ Fast Twist barrel profile is the same as above, but has a faster 1:10 twist. If the DNR suddenly changed their case size laws, the .450 would instantly be forgotten. Not only that, we have the best beer, the best beaches, the most culture, the best rivalries (U of M vs MSU), the most attractive women, and Tim Allen and Ted Nugent as our unofficial state mascots. I just know what I am doing. Hell yes it recoiled more, DUH that was expected. One can always make a case for better cartridge or platform. He claims to have written extensively about this caliber, yet recommends the .44 mag over the vastly superior killing ballistics of 450 B? As I am an avid reloader I can see what different hand loads can do. Used a standard buffer and spring and an adjustable gas block set wide open to start. The standard XM-15 has a forged 7075T6 aircraft-grade aluminum upper and lower receiver. Every one of those hits was from a deer clearing cover at full speed, head down in a full out run. This rifle has a 22-inch barrel and is fully ambidextrous. Douglas XX premium grade stainless; 1:16 twist; #5 contour. Its like a short action scout rifle 375H&H. 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